The Diplomatic Pouch

Press for Spring of 1918 in ruffians

Movement

Broadcast message from Turkey in 'ruffians':

    Amen
    
    > Broadcast message from [email protected] as Master in
    > 'ruffians':
    >
    > Anybody who thinks Christian was just "lucky", well this is
    > ridiculous.   How many times has he been lucky in this game?
    >
    > 1) Cal builds F StP(sc) in 1901
    > 2) The Sea Lion is derailed in 1902
    > 3) France and Germany stay bitter enemies from that point until both
    > are eliminated (and even in the grave, perhaps?)
    > 4) Italy is enough of a nuisance that France has no chance to recover
    > 5) Russia's presence in the North is reduced to insignificance
    > 6) Austria comes North, completely undermining Germany
    > 7) Turkey is boxed in in the midgame, unable to grow, but not
    > eliminated
    > 8) Italy _is_ eliminated, thereby creating a fleet vacuum England can
    > filled
    > 9) Austria (not England) is viewed by _everybody_ on the board as the
    > big threat to win the game
    > 10) R/T fight Austria when Austria could easily hold England back
    > 11) Austria threatens to throw the game to England and happily throws
    > centers his way
    > 12) Munich and Berlin are ceded w/o a fight
    > 13) Tunis is left undefended to an unsupported attack
    >
    > but most importantly
    >
    > 14) Not once in the game does anybody organize an anti-England
    > alliance
    >
    > Maybe you could attribute a few of these developments to "luck", but
    > _all_ of them?  Let's give credit where credit is due.  Christian has
    > played one hell of a game.
    >
    > Rick
    >
    

Message from Turkey to Austria and Russia in 'ruffians':

    I am going hell bent for leather on my attack of England.  I was serious
    when I said I stabbed Russia to have a chance to try and stalemate this one.
    Use me as a batter ram or whatever.  These are my suggested moves.  Please
    adjust.  THESE ARE NOT DEMANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Please, lets quit this
    pissing contest and give it one final shot for pride's sake.
    
    f sev - bla
    a rum - bul
    a bul - gre (to convoy to Italy thru Gre, or to alb)
    f tyn s naf - wes
    f naf - wes
    f tus - gol
    f rom s tyn
    
    Sultan MiKal
    
    

Broadcast message from Observer in 'ruffians':

    >
    > Broadcast message from [email protected] as Master in 'ruffians':
    >
    >  >
    >  > Broadcast message from [email protected] as Russia in 'ruffians':
    >  >
    >  > >Broadcast message from [email protected] as Turkey in 'ruffians':
    >  > >
    >  > >In response, the below, I am still learning and will take ALL these lessons
    >  > >to heart.  It is tough runnin' with the big dogs.  But I do not regret be
    >  > >asked to be a part.  Thanks Rick.
    >
    > You're quite welcome.  I think we'd all agree you did a lot more with
    > Turkey than either of your predecessors, and were a welcome addition
    > to the game.
    >
    >
    >  >
    >  > No need to kowtow, Meef.  most of what Christian wrote was plain wrong
    >  > anyway.
    >  >
    >  > Cal
    >
    > Meef has no need to kow-tow to anybody, I'd say.  I think he's the
    > only one out of this crowd going to the second round of the big email
    > tournament (and that includes Christian, Chris, Paul, John(?),
    > Jim-Bob, and me.)
    >
    > Rick
    >
    
    John was the smartest one of all of us!!  He didn't enter the WorldMasters
    Tournament!! ;-)  I guess Cal didn't either....
    
    Jim-Bob
    
    
    
    

Message from Russia to Austria and Turkey in

    'ruffians':
    
    > Message from [email protected] as Turkey to Austria and Russia in
    'ruffians':
    >
    >
    > I am going hell bent for leather on my attack of England.  I was serious
    > when I said I stabbed Russia to have a chance to try and stalemate this
    one.
    > Use me as a batter ram or whatever.  These are my suggested moves.  Please
    > adjust.  THESE ARE NOT DEMANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Please, lets quit this
    > pissing contest and give it one final shot for pride's sake.
    >
    > f sev - bla
    > a rum - bul
    > a bul - gre (to convoy to Italy thru Gre, or to alb)
    > f tyn s naf - wes
    > f naf - wes
    > f tus - gol
    > f rom s tyn
    
    You guys do what you want, I'm trying to defend St Pete's.
    
    Cal
    
    

Message from Turkey to Austria and Russia in 'ruffians':

    Chris, what do u say, r be gonna play ball here?
    
    MiKal
    
    
    >
    > Message from [email protected] as Russia to Austria and Turkey in
    > 'ruffians':
    >
    > > Message from [email protected] as Turkey to Austria and Russia in
    > 'ruffians':
    > >
    > >
    > > I am going hell bent for leather on my attack of England.  I was serious
    > > when I said I stabbed Russia to have a chance to try and stalemate this
    > one.
    > > Use me as a batter ram or whatever.  These are my suggested
    > moves.  Please
    > > adjust.  THESE ARE NOT DEMANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Please, lets
    > quit this
    > > pissing contest and give it one final shot for pride's sake.
    > >
    > > f sev - bla
    > > a rum - bul
    > > a bul - gre (to convoy to Italy thru Gre, or to alb)
    > > f tyn s naf - wes
    > > f naf - wes
    > > f tus - gol
    > > f rom s tyn
    >
    > You guys do what you want, I'm trying to defend St Pete's.
    >
    > Cal
    >
    
    
    

Message from Austria to Turkey in 'ruffians':

    Meef
    
    how about all units except your fleets holding?  if we are really tryiong to
    stop the solo lets not mess around.
    
    I will move to the Ionian, and then support you in if it looks feasable.
    
    Tyrn sea's support will probably be cut FROM the Gulf of Lyon -- I think you
    would be better off Supporting Tuscany to the Gulf, on the theory that
    Westmed will be supported to hold from the MAO.  But that doesn't matter if
    you are in the GOL and Christian isn't -- GOL cuts westmed's support, and
    Ionian Supports Tyrhinian in.  That is the only real chance we have -- and
    if Christian is clever in the spring he'll realize this, and bounce me out
    of the Ionian.
    
    I haven't seen him be that clever so far this game, but it could happen.  I
    think we should play the percentage, though, and go for the Gulf.
    
    Chris
    
    
    

Message from Turkey to Austria in 'ruffians':

    Are these ok?  If not PLEASE ADJUST ACCORDINGLY!!!!!!!
    
    f sev - bla
    a rum s bul
    a bul s rum
    f tyn s tus - gol
    f rom s tyn
    f tus - gol
    f naf - wes
    
    Meef
    
    p.s.  I wish I had not f tun - naf last season.
    
    > Message from [email protected] as Austria to Turkey in
    > 'ruffians':
    >
    >
    > Meef
    >
    > how about all units except your fleets holding?  if we are really
    > tryiong to
    > stop the solo lets not mess around.
    >
    > I will move to the Ionian, and then support you in if it looks feasable.
    >
    > Tyrn sea's support will probably be cut FROM the Gulf of Lyon --
    > I think you
    > would be better off Supporting Tuscany to the Gulf, on the theory that
    > Westmed will be supported to hold from the MAO.  But that doesn't
    > matter if
    > you are in the GOL and Christian isn't -- GOL cuts westmed's support, and
    > Ionian Supports Tyrhinian in.  That is the only real chance we have -- and
    > if Christian is clever in the spring he'll realize this, and bounce me out
    > of the Ionian.
    >
    > I haven't seen him be that clever so far this game, but it could
    > happen.  I
    > think we should play the percentage, though, and go for the Gulf.
    >
    > Chris
    >
    >
    
    
    

Broadcast message from England in

    'ruffians':
    
    
    Well gentlemen, my moves are in. Let�s get this over with quickly, shall
    we? :) We can of course continue for four turns, but I have calculated
    (very accuratley mind you!) that within four turns there are no way to stop
    me. The problem is that if I try to win fast, I might spoil the long-term
    plan also. Therefore, shall I be a dare-devil and go for a quick (1918 :))
    solo or shall I go for a slow (1920) solo? If you all promise not to try to
    stop me I can of course go for the slow but anyway win this year. I suggest
    you lots move like this:
    
    Austria:
    A boh -> vie
    A bud -> ser
    A gal -> bud
    F gre -> aeg
    A sil -> gal
    A tri -> alb
    A tyr -> tri
    
    Russia:
    A lvn -> mos
    A mos -> ukr
    A war Support A lvn -> mos
    
    Turkey:
    A bul -> con
    F naf -> mao
    F rom Support F tys -> nap
    A rum -> sev
    F sev -> arm
    F tus Hold
    F tys -> nap
    
    What say you?
    
    Get the moves in quick or slow, doesn't matter to me. But if you send'em
    quick you can always claim you didn't have the time to stop me! :)
    
    all the best
    Christian
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

Broadcast message from Russia in 'ruffians':

    Okay gents, he's getting smug.  Maybe we can't stop him, but if he ever
    attends a Con where any of us are at, he gets tossed in the nearest pool
    (frozen or not), agreed?
    
    Cal
    
    
    > Broadcast message from [email protected] as England in
    > 'ruffians':
    >
    >
    > Well gentlemen, my moves are in. Let�s get this over with quickly, shall
    > we? :) We can of course continue for four turns, but I have calculated
    > (very accuratley mind you!) that within four turns there are no way to
    stop
    > me. The problem is that if I try to win fast, I might spoil the long-term
    > plan also. Therefore, shall I be a dare-devil and go for a quick (1918 :))
    > solo or shall I go for a slow (1920) solo? If you all promise not to try
    to
    > stop me I can of course go for the slow but anyway win this year. I
    suggest
    > you lots move like this:
    >
    > Austria:
    > A boh -> vie
    > A bud -> ser
    > A gal -> bud
    > F gre -> aeg
    > A sil -> gal
    > A tri -> alb
    > A tyr -> tri
    >
    > Russia:
    > A lvn -> mos
    > A mos -> ukr
    > A war Support A lvn -> mos
    >
    > Turkey:
    > A bul -> con
    > F naf -> mao
    > F rom Support F tys -> nap
    > A rum -> sev
    > F sev -> arm
    > F tus Hold
    > F tys -> nap
    >
    > What say you?
    >
    > Get the moves in quick or slow, doesn't matter to me. But if you send'em
    > quick you can always claim you didn't have the time to stop me! :)
    >
    > all the best
    > Christian
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > signoff
    
    
    

Message from England to Master in

    'ruffians':
    
    
    Oh master. What are the rules when playing on the judge? I have only played
    a few games on the net and I don't feel certain that the following would be
    allowed, but I can always ask...
    
    Can I open a new email account with for example the address
    [email protected] and then send mails last-minute to Cal and Meef
    claiming to be Chris?
    
    all the best
    Christian
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

Broadcast message from England in

    'ruffians':
    
    
    >Okay gents, he's getting smug.  Maybe we can't stop him, but if he ever
    >attends a Con where any of us are at, he gets tossed in the nearest pool
    >(frozen or not), agreed?
    
    Yeah! Maybe at WDC? There�s a pool there, I remember! Or you can come to my
    native Con SydCon in Malm�, it�s around the 12th of June...I am coming to
    you, then are you not coming to me? Not even to throw me in a pool? *s*
    
    Christian
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

Broadcast message from Russia in 'ruffians':

    > Broadcast message from [email protected] as England in
    > 'ruffians':
    >
    >
    > >Okay gents, he's getting smug.  Maybe we can't stop him, but if he ever
    > >attends a Con where any of us are at, he gets tossed in the nearest pool
    > >(frozen or not), agreed?
    >
    > Yeah! Maybe at WDC? There�s a pool there, I remember! Or you can come to
    my
    > native Con SydCon in Malm�, it�s around the 12th of June...I am coming to
    > you, then are you not coming to me? Not even to throw me in a pool? *s*
    
    I'll be at WDC in Baltimore this year if you're coming.  By the way, I'm
    188cm and 130 kilos.  What do you figure my chances are of throwing you in
    the pool?  <g>
    
    Cal
    (That's 6'2", 285 pounds to the backward Yanks in the crowd)
    
    

Broadcast message from England in

    'ruffians':
    
    
    >I'll be at WDC in Baltimore this year if you're coming.  By the way, I'm
    >188cm and 130 kilos.  What do you figure my chances are of throwing you in
    >the pool?  <g>
    
    Well, I guess they are as high as the chances of me winning this game. :) I
    am 183 cm and 80-something kilos. Most of the something kilos is well kept
    around my waist !
    
    Christian
    
    
    
    
    
    

Broadcast message from Observer in 'ruffians':

    > >Okay gents, he's getting smug.  Maybe we can't stop him, but if he ever
    > >attends a Con where any of us are at, he gets tossed in the nearest pool
    > >(frozen or not), agreed?
    >
    > Yeah! Maybe at WDC? There�s a pool there, I remember! Or you can come to my
    > native Con SydCon in Malm�, it�s around the 12th of June...I am coming to
    > you, then are you not coming to me? Not even to throw me in a pool? *s*
    >
    Sounds like a fair compromise to me. Perhaps we could work out some kind of an
    rotation, where Christian is thrown into a pool in a different country each
    year.....
    
    - Matt
    
    
    
    Matthew Chirchill Shields
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    <PRE>>Okay gents, he's getting smug.  Maybe we can't stop him, but if he ever
    >attends a Con where any of us are at, he gets tossed in the nearest pool
    >(frozen or not), agreed?
    
    Yeah! Maybe at WDC? There´s a pool there, I remember! Or you can come to my
    native Con SydCon in Malmö, it´s around the 12th of June...I am coming to
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    Sounds like a fair compromise to me. Perhaps we could work out some kind
    of an rotation, where Christian is thrown into a pool in a different country
    each year.....
    
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Broadcast message from Turkey in 'ruffians':

    I feel that the King should step back and give the new unified front a
    chance.  I have been doing some fast talking behind the scenes and a/r/t are
    as good an one power.  It is amazing the overwhelming sense of love, harmony
    and goodwill that has so quickly sprung up.  The Emperor and the Czar are
    currently drinking brandy and smoking cigars after a long day of playing
    polo in the Ukraine.  The goodness of man's heart never ceases to amaze me.
    
    Sultan
    
    > Broadcast message from [email protected] as England in
    > 'ruffians':
    >
    >
    > Well gentlemen, my moves are in. Let�s get this over with quickly, shall
    > we? :) We can of course continue for four turns, but I have calculated
    > (very accuratley mind you!) that within four turns there are no way to
    stop
    > me. The problem is that if I try to win fast, I might spoil the long-term
    > plan also. Therefore, shall I be a dare-devil and go for a quick (1918 :))
    > solo or shall I go for a slow (1920) solo? If you all promise not to try
    to
    > stop me I can of course go for the slow but anyway win this year. I
    suggest
    > you lots move like this:
    >
    > Austria:
    > A boh -> vie
    > A bud -> ser
    > A gal -> bud
    > F gre -> aeg
    > A sil -> gal
    > A tri -> alb
    > A tyr -> tri
    >
    > Russia:
    > A lvn -> mos
    > A mos -> ukr
    > A war Support A lvn -> mos
    >
    > Turkey:
    > A bul -> con
    > F naf -> mao
    > F rom Support F tys -> nap
    > A rum -> sev
    > F sev -> arm
    > F tus Hold
    > F tys -> nap
    >
    > What say you?
    >
    > Get the moves in quick or slow, doesn't matter to me. But if you send'em
    > quick you can always claim you didn't have the time to stop me! :)
    >
    > all the best
    > Christian
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    
    
    

Message from Austria to Turkey in 'ruffians':

    Meef -- Those moves look good!
    
    Chris
    
    
    

Message from Austria to Russia in 'ruffians':

    Cal -- I think I should move through Munich to get to Prussia -- or You
    should support me to Prussia.  How do you want to play it?
    
    Chris
    
    
    

Broadcast message from France in 'ruffians':

    oh my god, you *can* hold the line!
    
    
    
    

Broadcast message from Germany in 'ruffians':

    >
    > Broadcast message from [email protected] as Russia in 'ruffians':
    >
    > > Broadcast message from [email protected] as England in
    > > 'ruffians':
    > >
    > >
    > > >Okay gents, he's getting smug.  Maybe we can't stop him, but if he ever
    > > >attends a Con where any of us are at, he gets tossed in the nearest pool
    > > >(frozen or not), agreed?
    > >
    > > Yeah! Maybe at WDC? There�s a pool there, I remember! Or you can come to
    > my
    > > native Con SydCon in Malm�, it�s around the 12th of June...I am coming to
    > > you, then are you not coming to me? Not even to throw me in a pool? *s*
    >
    > I'll be at WDC in Baltimore this year if you're coming.  By the way, I'm
    > 188cm and 130 kilos.  What do you figure my chances are of throwing you in
    > the pool?  <g>
    >
    > Cal
    > (That's 6'2", 285 pounds to the backward Yanks in the crowd)
    
    Well, at 5'9'', 175 I cannot outdo you in pure beef but I COULD provide
    leverage
    for hoisting him in....
    
    Paul
    
    
    
    

Message from Austria to France in 'ruffians':

    Spill it, johnnymylad!  I have looked at it a couple of times, and it looks
    like a guessing game to me.
    
    The only chance would appear to be to kick Christian out of tunis, and then
    hold it.  My plan at this point is for meef to support his F Tuscany into
    the GoLyon, so that westmed's support can be cut in the fall.
    
    Christian, if he's clever, will bounce me out of the Ionian -- but he really
    isnt that clever, I hope.  It would almost guarantee the game for him.
    
    He should move MAO -> NAf
    Tunis -> Ionian
    Gulf of Lyon -> Tyhn.
    Westmed S [either one, MAO -> Naf for prefs.]
    
    I am bounced out of the Ionian, the fleet in NAf is popped, and and st pete
    is a major lock.  Cal's fault for not building on the North coast!
    
    Are you seeing something I'm not?
    
    Chris
    
    
    

Message from Russia to Austria in 'ruffians':

    > Message from [email protected] as Austria to Russia in
    'ruffians':
    >
    >
    > Cal -- I think I should move through Munich to get to Prussia -- or You
    > should support me to Prussia.  How do you want to play it?
    >
    > Chris
    
    A War s A Sil-Pru?  If that's what you want, you got it.  Just let me know.
    
    Cal
    
    

Broadcast message from Russia in 'ruffians':

    > Broadcast message from [email protected] as Germany in 'ruffians':
    >
    > > Cal
    > > (That's 6'2", 285 pounds to the backward Yanks in the crowd)
    >
    > Well, at 5'9'', 175 I cannot outdo you in pure beef but I COULD provide
    > leverage
    > for hoisting him in....
    >
    > Paul
    
    I'm gonna change my name to Gulliver and throw you ALL in the damned pool...
    
    Cal
    
    

Broadcast message from England in

    'ruffians':
    
    
    OK guys, to get this over with as soon as possible. How can you defend
    against these moves:
    F MAO-NAf
    F WES S F MAO-NAf
    F Tun S F MAO-NAf
    F LYO-TYS
    A Pie hold
    +defense in Germany + moving to take StP.
    
    If you find a defense, tell me. Otherwise send your moves in and well get
    this to an end.
    
    all the best
    Christian
    
    
    
    
    
    

Message from Turkey to Austria in 'ruffians':

    f sev - bla
    a rum s bul
    a bul s rum
    f tyn s tus - gol
    f rom s tyn
    f tus - gol
    f naf - wes
    
    issued
    
    
    > Message from [email protected] as Austria to Turkey in
    > 'ruffians':
    >
    >
    > Meef -- Those moves look good!
    >
    > Chris
    >
    >
    
    

Message from Master to England in 'ruffians':

    You may send whatever you want from any account you want, as long as you don't
    try to hack Austria's password.
    
    
    Rick
    
    

Message from England to Master in

    'ruffians':
    
    
    >You may send whatever you want from any account you want, as long as you
    don't
    >try to hack Austria's password.
    No, of course I will not try to hack any passwords! Thanks! But in the
    light of my last broadcast I don't think it is necessary to try to con
    anyone anymore.
    
    Christian
    
    
    
    
    

Broadcast message from Observer in 'ruffians':

    Not to interfere (since you guys can do what you want anyway,
    regardless of what I say), but those were the moves that I
    saw (and your GM saw) and they look pretty damned unstoppable.
    
    Christian, are you sure you don't want to have all these fleets
    hold to give them a sporting chance ;-)
    
    Jim-Bob
    >
    > Broadcast message from [email protected] as England in
    > 'ruffians':
    >
    >
    > OK guys, to get this over with as soon as possible. How can you defend
    > against these moves:
    > F MAO-NAf
    > F WES S F MAO-NAf
    > F Tun S F MAO-NAf
    > F LYO-TYS
    > A Pie hold
    > +defense in Germany + moving to take StP.
    >
    > If you find a defense, tell me. Otherwise send your moves in and well get
    > this to an end.
    >
    > all the best
    > Christian
    >
    >
    >
    >
    
    
    

Broadcast message from Turkey in 'ruffians':

    Yeh that's the ticket, a sporting chance.  Mercy is a divine trait.
    
    
    > Broadcast message from [email protected] as Observer in 'ruffians':
    >
    >
    > Not to interfere (since you guys can do what you want anyway,
    > regardless of what I say), but those were the moves that I
    > saw (and your GM saw) and they look pretty damned unstoppable.
    >
    > Christian, are you sure you don't want to have all these fleets
    > hold to give them a sporting chance ;-)
    >
    > Jim-Bob
    > >
    > > Broadcast message from [email protected] as England in
    > > 'ruffians':
    > >
    > >
    > > OK guys, to get this over with as soon as possible. How can you defend
    > > against these moves:
    > > F MAO-NAf
    > > F WES S F MAO-NAf
    > > F Tun S F MAO-NAf
    > > F LYO-TYS
    > > A Pie hold
    > > +defense in Germany + moving to take StP.
    > >
    > > If you find a defense, tell me. Otherwise send your moves in
    > and well get
    > > this to an end.
    > >
    > > all the best
    > > Christian
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    
    

Broadcast message from England in

    'ruffians':
    
    OK, I *might* hold. Now get yor moves in. :)
    
    Christian
    
    
    
    
    
    

Message from France to Austria in 'ruffians':

    what about:
    A TYR-PIE
    A TRI-VEN
    F ROM - NAP (!!!)
    F GRE - ION
    F TUS - GOL (!!!)
    F NAF S F TYS-TUN
    F TYS-TUN (or -WES but I like TUN better)
    
    remember that he asked for a "quick" win in 1918 as opposed to 1920. That
    means there is something he thinks is going to take him 2 years to do. Can't
    be STP :)  above, you "give" him TYS and create 3 guessing games in the fall
    (MAR/SPA/TUN). It is significant because if he also does A PIE-TUS this
    season thinking to cut your support, then MAR is wide open and the time it
    will take him to re-arraange and put a unit in Gascony to kick you out is
    one season longer than the time it will take the new fleet thereby gained to
    get to the front. Also in above set of moves, if he attacks NAF with MAO and
    TUN support then it is cut; if he attacks from TUN with MAO support then you
    get to ION and TUN (but probablyu cannot hold it in the fall)
    
    
    
    

Message from Master to France in 'ruffians':

    The problem with your plan (if I may interject) and the reason that England
    will win is that England attacks North Africa with two supports,
    Tunis and WMed, and the Fleet in TYS can only cut one of these supports.
    
    
    Without a fleet in Ion to cut the support in Tunis, there is no way for
    A/T to keep F NAf alive.
    
    
    And I think we all agree once England controls NAf, Tun, and WME, he's just
    not going to lose Tunis.  Then it's just a matter of waiting for St. PEte
    to fall.
    
    Rick
    

Message from Russia to England in 'ruffians':

    Since we were talking about mis-directed press, this recent one was also one
    of my favourites...
    
    Cal
    
    >From: [email protected]
    >To: [email protected]
    >Subject: Diplomacy notice: ruffians
    >Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 03:44:55 -0800 (PST)
    >
    >             This Diplomacy Adjudicator sponsored by David Kovar.
    >	      Report JUDGE Problems to [email protected]
    >               Report problems with individual games to your GM.
    >
    >                   Please do NOT run RT games on this judge.
    >
    >         ***********************************************************
    >	  Any unmoderated games on this judge will be removed.
    >	(I.e., if you don't have a master, the game is in jeopardy.
    >	           if in doubt, send a list <gamename>)
    >         ***********************************************************
    >
    >Message from [email protected] as England to Turkey and
    >Russia in 'ruffians':
    >
    >
    >Meef, Cal,
    >
    >I couldn't resist the temptation. Sorry for that. As to Cals question, yes
    >I could wait to take StP untill Chris is eliminated. I have looked at the
    >positions and there is no way you can stop me from getting 18 within two
    >years, not even if Chris is helping you. But it would be nice if you took
    >Chris out quickly, as we all have more interesting things to do but waiting
    >for a decided game to end...:)
    >
    >all the best
    >Christian
    >enpress
    >press to a
    >Chris,
    >
    >Yes, you are right. But instead of you cutting Tus with Rome I can cut it
    >with Pie enableling you to support Apu-Nap with Rome.
    >I am moving Pie-Tus, LYO-TYR supported by WES and MAO-NAF. That would
    >secure us either TYR or NAF if you move Apu-Nap. And one more thing, don't
    >hold Berlin. In case Cal chances to support Berlin it is better if you move
    >Berlin-Prussia to disqualify the support...
    >
    >all the best
    >Christian
    >
    >
    >
    

Broadcast message from England in

    'ruffians':
    
    
    Yes it was kinda nice, wasn't it? But I didn't really expect it to work.
    But this "judge-syntax" gives you a lot more possibilities than FTF or
    normal PBeM. I like it! :)
    
    all the best
    Christian
    
    >Since we were talking about mis-directed press, this recent one was also one
    >of my favourites...
    >
    >Cal
    >
    >>From: [email protected]
    >>To: [email protected]
    >>Subject: Diplomacy notice: ruffians
    >>Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 03:44:55 -0800 (PST)
    >>
    >>             This Diplomacy Adjudicator sponsored by David Kovar.
    >>	      Report JUDGE Problems to [email protected]
    >>               Report problems with individual games to your GM.
    >>
    >>                   Please do NOT run RT games on this judge.
    >>
    >>         ***********************************************************
    >>	  Any unmoderated games on this judge will be removed.
    >>	(I.e., if you don't have a master, the game is in jeopardy.
    >>	           if in doubt, send a list <gamename>)
    >>         ***********************************************************
    >>
    >>Message from [email protected] as England to Turkey and
    >>Russia in 'ruffians':
    >>
    >>
    >>Meef, Cal,
    >>
    >>I couldn't resist the temptation. Sorry for that. As to Cals question, yes
    >>I could wait to take StP untill Chris is eliminated. I have looked at the
    >>positions and there is no way you can stop me from getting 18 within two
    >>years, not even if Chris is helping you. But it would be nice if you took
    >>Chris out quickly, as we all have more interesting things to do but waiting
    >>for a decided game to end...:)
    >>
    >>all the best
    >>Christian
    >>enpress
    >>press to a
    >>Chris,
    >>
    >>Yes, you are right. But instead of you cutting Tus with Rome I can cut it
    >>with Pie enableling you to support Apu-Nap with Rome.
    >>I am moving Pie-Tus, LYO-TYR supported by WES and MAO-NAF. That would
    >>secure us either TYR or NAF if you move Apu-Nap. And one more thing, don't
    >>hold Berlin. In case Cal chances to support Berlin it is better if you move
    >>Berlin-Prussia to disqualify the support...
    >>
    >>all the best
    >>Christian
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    
    
    
    
    

Broadcast message from Italy in 'ruffians':

    Gees, here I go away for a few days and you swamp my mailbox.
    And you have not even manage to end this game yet. :-)
    
    If you need someone to blame for the conclusion of this game, blame Austria.
    I have since the beginning of this game. :-)
    
    Mvh Roland
    

Broadcast message from Germany in 'ruffians':

    >
    > Broadcast message from [email protected] as Italy in 'ruffians':
    >
    > Gees, here I go away for a few days and you swamp my mailbox.
    > And you have not even manage to end this game yet. :-)
    >
    > If you need someone to blame for the conclusion of this game, blame Austria.
    > I have since the beginning of this game. :-)
    >
    > Mvh Roland
    
    Well, I blamed Russia at first (for weakening Germany to augment Austria) but I
    got around to blaming Austria  for everything in due time.
     Funny.  I never got around to blaming England for much....
    
    --Paul
    
    
    

Broadcast message from Observer in 'ruffians':

    >
    > Broadcast message from [email protected] as Germany in 'ruffians':
    >
    >
    > >
    > > Broadcast message from [email protected] as Italy in 'ruffians':
    > >
    > > Gees, here I go away for a few days and you swamp my mailbox.
    > > And you have not even manage to end this game yet. :-)
    > >
    > > If you need someone to blame for the conclusion of this game, blame Austria.
    > > I have since the beginning of this game. :-)
    > >
    > > Mvh Roland
    >
    > Well, I blamed Russia at first (for weakening Germany to augment Austria) but I
    > got around to blaming Austria  for everything in due time.
    >      Funny.  I never got around to blaming England for much....
    >
    > --Paul
    >
    >
    
    As I think everyone should have noticed by now, the truly astounding
    level of play by our English player is NOT in tactics (there are at
    least three players in this game who seem to be as good or better at
    that), NOT in verbosity (almost everyone else in the game seems to be
    more verbose from what I've seen, except for our present Turk who has
    a fascinating clipped writing style!), but in just that characteristic
    of play that Paul notes.  He seems to keep everyone directed at being
    upset and angry at SOMEONE else... NOT him!
    
    That is the trait of a brilliant Diplomat!
    Jim
    

Broadcast message from Russia in 'ruffians':

    > Broadcast message from [email protected] as Observer in 'ruffians':
    >
    > As I think everyone should have noticed by now, the truly astounding
    > level of play by our English player is NOT in tactics (there are at
    > least three players in this game who seem to be as good or better at
    > that), NOT in verbosity (almost everyone else in the game seems to be
    > more verbose from what I've seen, except for our present Turk who has
    > a fascinating clipped writing style!), but in just that characteristic
    > of play that Paul notes.  He seems to keep everyone directed at being
    > upset and angry at SOMEONE else... NOT him!
    >
    > That is the trait of a brilliant Diplomat!
    
    Well, I agree that Christian has done a fine job of that this game, although
    the only reason I stopped being mad at him after his initial stab of me
    (don't forget that I had just pulled his chestnuts out of the fire with that
    build in St Pete's) was that someone else (Cyrille probably; he was good at
    that) pissed me off even worse.  Add to that Austrian treachery and German
    perfidy, I just never got back around to being mad at England.
    
    Cal
    

Broadcast message from England in

    'ruffians':
    
    
    Some comments:
    
    >As I think everyone should have noticed by now, the truly astounding
    >level of play by our English player is NOT in tactics (there are at
    >least three players in this game who seem to be as good or better at
    >that),
    Or even more. My weak point has always been in tactics (not in strategy though). Our team missed the first place in WDC because I didn't figure out t
    here was one move that would make me certain not to loose any center last year. Instead I did loose a center and we ended up beaten by that multi-nat
    ional team...Grr...Wow did my teammates hate me! :)
    
    >NOT in verbosity (almost everyone else in the game seems to be
    >more verbose from what I've seen, except for our present Turk who has
    >a fascinating clipped writing style!)
    To my defence: I do not know what verbosity means, but I guess it has something to do with being able to speak/write fluently and affirmingly. Well,
    I am Swedish...You guys start playing in Swedish! :)
    
    >but in just that characteristic
    >of play that Paul notes.  He seems to keep everyone directed at being
    >upset and angry at SOMEONE else... NOT him!
    Which as many people has said was not so hard in this game. I just added a little "stupid him" and "bloddy Chris" here and there. You all seemed so e
    ager to hate each other...:)
    
    And Cal, I think you should blame me for Cyrilles furiousity. I am sure he didn't mean no harm. :)
    
    all the best
    Christian
    
    

Message from Austria to Russia in 'ruffians':

    Cal,
    
    Gal -> Sil
    Sil -> Pru
    
    ordered!
    
    Chris
    
    
    

Broadcast message from Master in 'ruffians':

    I'm leaving on Wednesday for a 10-day trip to Japan.  I'll remove the
    Moderated flag when I go, so anybody could make any necessary
    adjustments while I'm away to deadlines, etc.  I don't anticipate this
    should be a big problem.  I will have email access from the conference
    hotel in Tokyo, but afterwards I will go offline for about 5 days to
    see Mount Fuji, cherry blossoms, sumo wrestlers, kabuki, karaoke, and
    anything else Japanese I can fit into such a short trip.
    
    Rick
    

Broadcast message from Observer in 'ruffians':

    If players would get their orders in.... well, better left unsaid ;-)
    
    Don't get into any volcano dust clouds (realizing you will be well away
    from the danger area).
    
    Jim-Bob
    
    > Broadcast message from [email protected] as Master in 'ruffians':
    >
    > I'm leaving on Wednesday for a 10-day trip to Japan.  I'll remove the
    > Moderated flag when I go, so anybody could make any necessary
    > adjustments while I'm away to deadlines, etc.  I don't anticipate this
    > should be a big problem.  I will have email access from the conference
    > hotel in Tokyo, but afterwards I will go offline for about 5 days to
    > see Mount Fuji, cherry blossoms, sumo wrestlers, kabuki, karaoke, and
    > anything else Japanese I can fit into such a short trip.
    >
    > Rick
    >
    
    

Broadcast message from Russia in 'ruffians':

    >Broadcast message from [email protected] as Master in 'ruffians':
    >
    >I'm leaving on Wednesday for a 10-day trip to Japan.  I'll remove the
    >Moderated flag when I go, so anybody could make any necessary
    >adjustments while I'm away to deadlines, etc.  I don't anticipate this
    >should be a big problem.  I will have email access from the conference
    >hotel in Tokyo, but afterwards I will go offline for about 5 days to
    >see Mount Fuji, cherry blossoms, sumo wrestlers, kabuki, karaoke, and
    >anything else Japanese I can fit into such a short trip.
    
    Geisha's, don't forget geishas...  d;-})
    
    Cal
    

Broadcast message from Russia in 'ruffians':

    a livonia-stp
    a mos s a livonia-stp
    a war s a sil-pru
    

Broadcast message from Russia in 'ruffians':

    Help, my e-mail is going nuts...
    
    Orders (obviously) now sent in.
    
    Cal
    sigh
    

Broadcast message from England in

    'ruffians':
    
    
    Yes, I forgot to mention. I am holding with Piedemont.
    
    /Christian
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

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